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Post by smartmouthwoman on Aug 7, 2013 1:27:23 GMT
I'm not quite sure what the IRS has to do with "Obamacare" initially as it is going to be on the "honor system" to begin with and Republicans don't have any problem with lying on their tax returns anyway. Additionally the vast majority of Americans already have health insurance and "Obamacare" only addresses about 10% of the work force. It sure won't affect the poor that will receive 100% government subsidies anyway. Really? My aren't you the trusting one. 16,500 more agents to make sure everybody's following the 'honor system?'
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Post by ShivaTD on Aug 7, 2013 10:07:08 GMT
The IRS never insures that "everyone" follows the tax codes. It only does spot audits that are actually rather rare.
Of interest I was audited for 2009 and when it was all over and done with the IRS owed me over $8,000 in additional tax refunds predominately because I didn't take every deduction I was entitled to and when audited I turned my financial records over to a CPA to deal with. I typically overpay in taxes and I don't have much of a problem with that.
As I noted the "honor system" will only last for the first year or two of implementation and if $10 billion in IRS expenditures results in a "positive" revenue then are any of us opposed to it? Shouldn't the IRS enforce the tax codes to ensure that as many people as possible are abiding by them?
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Post by 12th on Aug 7, 2013 18:08:00 GMT
The scariest part of this whole fiasco is this... the IRS will be administering Obamacare. Once again in this administration, poor (or fraudulent) performance results in increased responsibility. See Susan Rice for another example. We couldn't be more screwed. I disagree. The scariest part of this is not that the IRS is administering it. The scariest part is that anyone defends it to begin with. The trust they have in this corrupt administration, future administrations and the proven corrupt IRS. Whatever they call themselves, they love big govt. Those people are frogs in a pot.
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Post by ShivaTD on Aug 8, 2013 17:45:34 GMT
I disagree. The scariest part of this is not that the IRS is administering it. The scariest part is that anyone defends it to begin with. The trust they have in this corrupt administration, future administrations and the proven corrupt IRS. Whatever they call themselves, they love big govt. Those people are frogs in a pot. In a very real sense I agree with this but it's been the politicans (Republicans and Democrats alike) that have created the problem. They have created so many tax codes to corrupt our tax system so that it is inherently unfair (representing crony capitalism) to benefit their major political contributors (i.e. the wealthy) and to hide their political activities and then mandate the IRS to carryout the cover-ups and to provide the tax breaks for the wealthy political contributors. I don't have a problem with "not for profit" enterprises as they do provide information and services to the American People and, at least in theory, they're not in it to make money. What I have a problem with is why should the people donating to these not for profit enterprises be afforded anonymity? We know that anonymity is being used for nefarious political reasons in many cases so why do we allow it at all. Certainly a person contributing to a worthwhile cause shouldn't be ashamed of their contribution so they don't require anonymity. The only person that seeks anonymity is someone trying to "cover their tracks" because they don't want to exposured.
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