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Post by sfjeff on Aug 12, 2013 21:22:25 GMT
So I listened to an interview of this author- fascinating guy- his family fled to America from Iran after the revolution- his family was Muslim but his father was disgusted by the Muslim extremists of the Iranian revolution and essentially became a non-practicing Muslim. The author- growing up in middle America, became a born again Christian, and toured the country preaching salvation in Christ- his mother converted and is still a Christian.
He went to college as a Christian to study religion- a Catholic university I believe- and over time lost faith in the Christian religion- but as he talks about grew to admire Jesus the man. After he lost his faith and seemed distressed by this, a couple of his Jesuit professors suggested he revisit the faith of his family, and he went back to Islam.
The man I heard being interviewed was never disrespectful of Christians- or Muslims and presented his book as his exploration Jesus from the NT in historical context.
That the Fox interviewer seemed obsessed about his being a Muslim doesn't surprise me. No- I am no fan of Fox. Yes, I think that Fox, more than any other media outlet, is the voice of Conservatives.
RE: Mitt Romney- his religion never became the issue that I expected it to be- I really expected Evangelicals to be far more opposed to him for religious reasons than they were- but I think that he never inspired the religious right in large part due to his belonging to a faith that many fundamentals call a cult and anti-Christian.
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Post by wyly on Aug 13, 2013 21:19:59 GMT
I hate to break it to you, but a muslim is not "qualified" to write a book about Jesus. But even still, I doubt that Christian leaders will call for jihad over it. the irony here is despite the absence of expertise on Islam the christian right never hesitates to comment and pass judgement on Muslim beliefs... |
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Post by Leo on Aug 26, 2013 3:28:09 GMT
I hate to break it to you, but a muslim is not "qualified" to write a book about Jesus. But even still, I doubt that Christian leaders will call for jihad over it. the irony here is despite the absence of expertise on Islam the christian right never hesitates to comment and pass judgement on Muslim beliefs... LOL, one of the many endearing chracteristics of fundamentalist demagogues of every stripe.  |
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Post by ShivaTD on Aug 26, 2013 13:13:21 GMT
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Post by ShivaTD on Sept 25, 2013 10:47:06 GMT
It's somewhat amazing that Fox News hasn't been classified as a Hate Group yet.
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Post by maniacalhamster on Sept 25, 2013 17:44:11 GMT
Oh good Lord! Your entire thing is about trying to push your view that all conservatives are a bunch of racists! Do you realize just how many issues of the day where you do just that? First off, Fox News is so popular and beats out the mainstream news outlets BECAUSE its commentators question fairly and don't simply engage in a 'love fest' for those they agree with as say MSNBC does. It's why many liberals and Independents watch it as well. And trying to make the case that because of this one commentator's questioning, which wasn't racist, btw, that all conservatives are racists is quite ridiculous. It's like saying that because you often defend the liberal position on issues of the day, then you MUST support Anthony Wiener's pervert actions.....therefore you must support perverts or sexists??? See how ridiculous that is? Seriously, when someone takes every issue and tries to somehow make it into "conservatives/Republicans are racists," they lose credibility. you do realize any one with a brain that actually works knows Fox News is propaganda for the republicans..and feed into the morons of society. it's a shameful television show... The Canadian government, conservative at the time, tried to block it from being aired on Canadian cable providers.....they did not want to imbue the moronic swath of our country with ammunition to be more moronic... protecting Fox News is like protecting Cheney and bush's right to go to war cause they wanted to .... |
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Post by maniacalhamster on Sept 25, 2013 17:46:49 GMT
it aggravates me to no end that they are allowed to call Jesus a prophet and deem Him less than God, yet even drawing a picture of their prophet can get you killed... |
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Post by ShivaTD on Sept 26, 2013 0:07:08 GMT
it aggravates me to no end that they are allowed to call Jesus a prophet and deem Him less than God, yet even drawing a picture of their prophet can get you killed...
So it isn't just the image of the Prophet Mohammad but any image of any person that is banned by some Islamic sects.
Of course fanatical members of all religions have been known to murder people that violate their religious beliefs. It sort of comes with the turf related to any religion.
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Post by pjohns1873 on Oct 25, 2013 0:47:19 GMT
Given that Islam is inherently uncongenial to all other religions, and the practitioners thereof--for more on this, see, e.g., Quran 8:39; Quran 9:5; Quran 9:11; Quran 9:29; Quran 2:193; and, from the Hadith, Sahih Muslim 1:33; Sahih Muslim 19:4294; Bukhari 2:24; Bukhari 8:387; Bukhari 53:392; Bukhari 59:643; Bukhari 60:40; Bukhari 60:80; and Ibn Ishaq Hisham 959; and given, further, the apparent indifference (at best) of many so-called "moderate" Muslims toward the persecution of Christians in some Muslim-majority countries; it does not strike me as being at all remarkable that someone might wonder, aloud, why a Muslim would choose to author such a book...
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Post by fred on Oct 26, 2013 3:52:44 GMT
I hate to break it to you, but a muslim is not "qualified" to write a book about Jesus. But even still, I doubt that Christian leaders will call for jihad over it.
That Muslim has spent 20 years researching and will know a lot more than most Christians, as I probably do. For instance, you you realise Jesus (original name, Isa) wasn't the Son of God until 325 AD?
The various arguing bits of the church finally decided this at the first council of Nicaea, the bit where they tossed away the bits of the bible they didn't like and changed his name to Jesus.
Isa is known to Muslims as one of a string of prophets, a list that includes Noah, Adam and Moses.
What, didn't you realise that? WOW!
I suppose it's because we use their real names, not the Christian, cleaned up version you're aware of.
That gives you the reason a Muslim may wish to research Isa in all writings available; even in the somewhat corrupted and very harshly edited bible.
Isa is, except for the lollipop bit near the end of his life as recorded in the bible, is essentially the same.
Maryam (Damn those real names, Mary) managed to conceive without knowing a man's touch and Isa did a lot of praying to God and so on.
He even had a chat with Yahya ibn Zakariyya (or, for the Christians, John the Baptist).
The twisted hate merchants have no clue what they're talking about.
Thank you, and I hope this has helped you along with a little understanding.
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Post by fugazi on Nov 3, 2013 18:33:34 GMT
Seriously? A person with four degrees, including one in the New Testament, and fluency in biblical Greek, who has been studying the origins of Christianity for two decades isn't qualified to write a book?  It is also interesting when people use the word "jihad" when they don't understand what the term means. It has been misappropriated by some Islamic organizations to rationalize acts of terrorism but acts of terrorism violate the Quran. Based upon the Quran the "Great Jihad" is the internal, individual, spiritual struggle toward self-improvement, moral cleansing and intellectual effort. The "Lessor Jihad" is the struggle to improve society, preventing the exploitation of the poor or vulnerable. If they truly want to "self improve" they could start by treating women as equals. There is nothing moral about forcing women to cover their hair and faces, not allow them to attend schools or drive a car, to name but a few ways. And this is their religion that tells them to do that. There is nothing moral about burying a woman in sand up to her neck and throw rocks at her head until she's dead.....because she was raped!! And there is nothing moral about cutting off the head of a British soldier on the street. Yet it is totally "moral" to force a woman to remain pregnant . double standards abound. |
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