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Post by ShivaTD on Aug 23, 2013 16:38:25 GMT
A little historical correction Shiva. The Church of England was never involved in the crusades as the crusades predate the establishment of the CoE. AH Historically correct but the Crown in England was still an extension of authority of the Church. Of note we can cite "the law" but fail to recognize that there are always "secret" government operations that operate outside of the law. They are "secret" which is why we don't know about them at the time but eventually history tends to reveal them. We also have to acknowledge that there are always "rogue" elements of government. For example, Oliver North worked outside of the authorized authority of the US government in providing arms to the Contras (a terrorist organization). Can anyone definitively state that there wasn't a rogue element of the SAS that worked outside of the law, reporting to no one, that was responsible for the death of Princess Diana? It could be as few as 1/2 dozen people that worked outside the normal authority of the SAS.
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Post by cenydd on Aug 23, 2013 17:48:06 GMT
Can anyone definitively state that there wasn't a rogue element of the SAS that worked outside of the law, reporting to no one, that was responsible for the death of Princess Diana? It could be as few as 1/2 dozen people that worked outside the normal authority of the SAS. 'Definitively state'? Of course not, but then it's not possible to definitively state that the queen of England isn't a man in women's clothes either. It's pretty unlikely, though!
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Post by tamora on Aug 23, 2013 17:50:09 GMT
It's difficult to prove a negative like that, but the theory still isn't credible. This latest claim seems to stem from a family dispute: A bitter soldier making wild claims to intimidate his estranged wife and inlaws is a lot more believeable.
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Post by bobbins on Aug 23, 2013 19:58:24 GMT
The Di dying case was all solved in Alexei Sayle's Barcelona Plates.
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Post by ShivaTD on Aug 23, 2013 23:35:05 GMT
WOW. Now I never knew that the Queen was a cross-dressing man. Who would have ever guessed that one.
ROFLMAO
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Post by Makedde on Aug 24, 2013 5:51:07 GMT
I can still remember hearing about the crash that took Di's life. I was 14 years old at the time, and it was front page news for two weeks. I loved Princess Di, and as a conspiracy theorist, I believe the crash was no accident. I don't even believe Henri Paul was drunk, I believe his blood sample was switched to make it appear that he was drunk. Also, multiple people reported seeing a strange car following the Mercedes, yet no one bothered to look for it.
I believe that IF it was an accident, Henri Paul was only speeding to get away from the vultures that are the British press. It is well known that the British press are the worst in the world - they hounded Di to death, and they continued to hound her long after she was gone.
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Post by ShivaTD on Aug 24, 2013 7:44:09 GMT
Mohammad al Fayed, Dodi al Fayed's father, has always believed his son and Princess Diana were murdered although I don't know his exact reasons for believing that.
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Post by cenydd on Aug 24, 2013 22:01:52 GMT
Mohammad al Fayed, Dodi al Fayed's father, has always believed his son and Princess Diana were murdered although I don't know his exact reasons for believing that. His own 'eccentricity'?! Or perhaps is own ongoing feud with 'the establishment' in the UK. This is the guy that built a huge, not very good (and very creepy!) statue of Michael Jackson outside a football (soccer, obviously!) stadium, for no real reason that anyone else has ever managed to work out: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-12950708He's barking mad, has been involved with various scandals, and has a problem with 'the establishment' after repeated attempts to get UK citizenship (refused basically on the grounds that the rules say that new citizens have to be 'of good character'). Not what I would call a 'reliable witness' or a 'trustworthy character' at all!
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Post by cenydd on Aug 24, 2013 22:06:02 GMT
........ the vultures that are the British press. It is well known that the British press are the worst in the world - they hounded Di to death, and they continued to hound her long after she was gone. They were one of the worst, although they have perhaps improved a little in some ways more recently (a little less inclined to chase down and print the more lurid and privacy-violating pictures). The French press are considerably worse, though, and seem to have no intentions of ever improving at all. It was certainly no 'accident' that the accident happened in the way that it happened in France.
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Post by ShivaTD on Aug 25, 2013 11:38:23 GMT
........ the vultures that are the British press. It is well known that the British press are the worst in the world - they hounded Di to death, and they continued to hound her long after she was gone. They were one of the worst, although they have perhaps improved a little in some ways more recently (a little less inclined to chase down and print the more lurid and privacy-violating pictures). The French press are considerably worse, though, and seem to have no intentions of ever improving at all. It was certainly no 'accident' that the accident happened in the way that it happened in France. Was anyone in the press that was pursuing the car Dodi and Diana in ever prosecuted? That pursuit would have been criminal assault in the United States and would have been prosecuted.
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