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Post by iolo on Sept 25, 2013 15:44:42 GMT
Former President Bush, a self-professed Christian with the backing of self-professed Christians in the Congress, ordered the invasions of two Islamic countries resulting in the deaths of between 150,000 to over 1 million innocent Muslims (depending upon what source is cited) so do we blame all Christians?
"Zionist Jews" in Israel are responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent Muslims so do we blame all Jews?
Stereotyping of any group based upon the actions of a few extremists is an invalid proposition but is quite often done by those that don't think out what they're saying.
Zionists Jews ...responsable for deaths of thousands....this is news to me... did Bush actually rally christians to kill muslims...was his army devoid of muslim soldiers.. How many Catholic Iraqis died? this sort of wag the dog stuff doesn't sit with me Shiva. The Zionist Nazis have killed two thousand Palestinian children in ten years, for instance. Don't you know Bush ranted on about a 'crusade'? What are crusades about? If Zionists were colonising your country - or even Christians trying to bring you back to the Faith - you would certainly organise Mammonist groups to terrorise them, wouldn't you?
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Post by maniacalhamster on Sept 25, 2013 16:30:45 GMT
Zionists Jews ...responsable for deaths of thousands....this is news to me... did Bush actually rally christians to kill muslims...was his army devoid of muslim soldiers.. How many Catholic Iraqis died? this sort of wag the dog stuff doesn't sit with me Shiva. The Zionist Nazis have killed two thousand Palestinian children in ten years, for instance. Don't you know Bush ranted on about a 'crusade'? What are crusades about? If Zionists were colonising your country - or even Christians trying to bring you back to the Faith - you would certainly organise Mammonist groups to terrorise them, wouldn't you? lol...I'm not a big fan of George Doubleya..but he did use the word crusade rather gaffey...jumping on that and thinking christians are out to start a crusade that was deemed medieval and wrong . 11th and 12th century wrong doings are sort of inane to bring up in a grudge like manner. The Jews were given a sliver of a country..Britain drew up the geography known as the mid east..the piece of lead given the jews is far less than the gold given to the Arabs. after all Arabs were a wandering bedouin tribe at one time...some sort of civility needed to be taught to bring them into the modern age. something Fasil and others welcomed for their people. now who threw the first stone at Israel...hmmmmm...the threat of war and rockets pouring in and people blowing themselves in the name of a god...i mean really now... I've talked to older honest Arabs. they recall a time when Israel brought forth fruit plantations and greenery out of the desert ..they recalled a time when their leaders who still were mired in desert sand, called it a Jewish trick...The Arabs ,like the French Canadian , are a race that is oppressed by their rulers and aristocracy in french Canada... it's time to let israel alone...this sliver of a land ...these people that gave muse to the koran....
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Post by iolo on Sept 25, 2013 16:49:37 GMT
The Zionist Nazis have killed two thousand Palestinian children in ten years, for instance. Don't you know Bush ranted on about a 'crusade'? What are crusades about? If Zionists were colonising your country - or even Christians trying to bring you back to the Faith - you would certainly organise Mammonist groups to terrorise them, wouldn't you? lol...I'm not a big fan of George Doubleya..but he did use the word crusade rather gaffey...jumping on that and thinking christians are out to start a crusade that was deemed medieval and wrong . 11th and 12th century wrong doings are sort of inane to bring up in a grudge like manner. The Jews were given a sliver of a country..Britain drew up the geography known as the mid east..the piece of lead given the jews is far less than the gold given to the Arabs. after all Arabs were a wandering bedouin tribe at one time...some sort of civility needed to be taught to bring them into the modern age. something Fasil and others welcomed for their people. now who threw the first stone at Israel...hmmmmm...the threat of war and rockets pouring in and people blowing themselves in the name of a god...i mean really now... I've talked to older honest Arabs. they recall a time when Israel brought forth fruit plantations and greenery out of the desert ..they recalled a time when their leaders who still were mired in desert sand, called it a Jewish trick...The Arabs ,like the French Canadian , are a race that is oppressed by their rulers and aristocracy in french Canada... it's time to let israel alone...this sliver of a land ...these people that gave muse to the koran.... I don't know what 'the Arabs' were - the Palestinians, obviously, are the descendants of the Old Testament Jews. I do not know why ex-Jews should be given anyone else's country at all, especially by the UK. As you know, all informed Jews know only the Messiah can lead them 'back' there. Colonialism stinks, and profits only the colonists, as you know.
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Post by maniacalhamster on Sept 25, 2013 16:54:15 GMT
lol...I'm not a big fan of George Doubleya..but he did use the word crusade rather gaffey...jumping on that and thinking christians are out to start a crusade that was deemed medieval and wrong . 11th and 12th century wrong doings are sort of inane to bring up in a grudge like manner. The Jews were given a sliver of a country..Britain drew up the geography known as the mid east..the piece of lead given the jews is far less than the gold given to the Arabs. after all Arabs were a wandering bedouin tribe at one time...some sort of civility needed to be taught to bring them into the modern age. something Fasil and others welcomed for their people. now who threw the first stone at Israel...hmmmmm...the threat of war and rockets pouring in and people blowing themselves in the name of a god...i mean really now... I've talked to older honest Arabs. they recall a time when Israel brought forth fruit plantations and greenery out of the desert ..they recalled a time when their leaders who still were mired in desert sand, called it a Jewish trick...The Arabs ,like the French Canadian , are a race that is oppressed by their rulers and aristocracy in french Canada... it's time to let israel alone...this sliver of a land ...these people that gave muse to the koran.... I don't know what 'the Arabs' were - the Palestinians, obviously, are the descendants of the Old Testament Jews. I do not know why ex-Jews should be given anyone else's country at all, especially by the UK. As you know, all informed Jews know only the Messiah can lead them 'back' there. Colonialism stinks, and profits only the colonists, as you know. because the UK is sane...and the best of the best the human race has to offer....suck it up buttercup....
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Post by iolo on Sept 25, 2013 17:15:47 GMT
I don't know what 'the Arabs' were - the Palestinians, obviously, are the descendants of the Old Testament Jews. I do not know why ex-Jews should be given anyone else's country at all, especially by the UK. As you know, all informed Jews know only the Messiah can lead them 'back' there. Colonialism stinks, and profits only the colonists, as you know. because the UK is sane...and the best of the best the human race has to offer....suck it up buttercup.... I'm sure that is full of meaning out at Lyncher's Landing, but I am far too simple to understand such deep thoughts!
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Post by maniacalhamster on Sept 25, 2013 17:28:47 GMT
because the UK is sane...and the best of the best the human race has to offer....suck it up buttercup.... I'm sure that is full of meaning out at Lyncher's Landing, but I am far too simple to understand such deep thoughts! yeah well your alright dude /duddette...ya got humour... look it's simple at the end of the day... europe made laws... at one time me being a white man could own a real live person and do what i want to them cause they were my property.. then the whole plant a flag and own a country... Cabot an italian planted a brit flag and canada became theirs...British!!! but those damn french thought it was theirs the indians apparently did not know about the bible so they did not count..they were pawns in the bigger game... the mormons say they knew but forgot so god made them red looking as a mark of his wrath.. none of this i am making up.. so under those rules the jews were given a tiny slice of the mid east...a slap in the face...after all everyone else was happy at the large pieces of desert given them by the brits.... so lets just stop all the fuss and enjoy the day... stop telling people that if they blowed up themselves they go to heaven... stop all the terrorism...and allow the Jews to live on the sliver... after all the Jews do give so much more to the human condition than Arabs anyway..
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Post by iolo on Sept 27, 2013 13:35:32 GMT
I'm sure that is full of meaning out at Lyncher's Landing, but I am far too simple to understand such deep thoughts! yeah well your alright dude /duddette...ya got humour... look it's simple at the end of the day... europe made laws... at one time me being a white man could own a real live person and do what i want to them cause they were my property.. then the whole plant a flag and own a country... Cabot an italian planted a brit flag and canada became theirs...British!!! but those damn french thought it was theirs the indians apparently did not know about the bible so they did not count..they were pawns in the bigger game... the mormons say they knew but forgot so god made them red looking as a mark of his wrath.. none of this i am making up.. so under those rules the jews were given a tiny slice of the mid east...a slap in the face...after all everyone else was happy at the large pieces of desert given them by the brits.... so lets just stop all the fuss and enjoy the day... stop telling people that if they blowed up themselves they go to heaven... stop all the terrorism...and allow the Jews to live on the sliver... after all the Jews do give so much more to the human condition than Arabs anyway.. Oh, dearie me! I don't know whom you are addressing, but it certainly doesn't seem to be me. Have some black coffee and go home! If you are pro-Zionist, God help the Nazi Buggers!
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Post by africanhope on Sept 27, 2013 13:45:16 GMT
It is clear that further attacks are being planned, and the AU is assisting in investigations. Our own government is taking this very seriously. Tweets from the terrorist threaten further attacks and taunts Kenya.
But the point remains - this was NOT a Muslim attack on Kenya, this was a Al Shabaab attack on Kenya. We do not say a Sinn Fein attack was a Catholic attack, and this is the same. Muslims did also die in this attack, and Kenya has a large and peaceful Muslim population.
The majority of Muslims are peace loving people, and are horrified by these attacks.
Let us help Kenya and honour the dead by identifying and fighting the right enemy, not an imagined one.
AH
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Post by ShivaTD on Oct 18, 2013 15:42:18 GMT
The quotation "went south" (I don't understand how that sometimes happens) so here it is again: This false on two counts. While it is true that Britain was assigned as the Mandatory over a part of the Middle East that had been formerly under the control of the Turkish Empire by the League of Nations the Covenant of the League of Nations did not provide the authority for the British to give anything to anyone.
Britain did divide it's Mandatory into Trans-Jordan and Palestine and the Article 22 of the Covenant was that the British were responsible for the political education of the inhabitants in these territories so that the People living there could achieve self-governance. The British failed miserably in fulfilling Article 22 of the League of Nations Covenant.
Palestine belonged to the inhabitants of Palestine and the British had no authority to give their lands to anyone else.
Next is the fact that even the British Mandate for Palestine (IMO the second worst document of the 20th Century coming in a close second to the Treaty of Versailles) did not established a foundation for a Jewish nation. It invited and assisted in allowing European Jews to immigrate to Palestine so that it could be their homeland along with the existing Palestinians that were overwhelmingly Arab Muslims. Palestine was to become a share homeland for the existing residents and immigrating European Jews.
By way of analogy just because we allow Hispanic immigration to the United States doesn't imply that Hispanics have any Right to Establish a new Hispanic nation. They immigrate here to become Americans and are not allowed to immigrate here to form their own Hispanic nation.
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Post by ShivaTD on Oct 18, 2013 15:51:02 GMT
It is clear that further attacks are being planned, and the AU is assisting in investigations. Our own government is taking this very seriously. Tweets from the terrorist threaten further attacks and taunts Kenya. But the point remains - this was NOT a Muslim attack on Kenya, this was a Al Shabaab attack on Kenya. We do not say a Sinn Fein attack was a Catholic attack, and this is the same. Muslims did also die in this attack, and Kenya has a large and peaceful Muslim population. The majority of Muslims are peace loving people, and are horrified by these attacks. Let us help Kenya and honour the dead by identifying and fighting the right enemy, not an imagined one. AH This is a point I try to make but there is a rather large continent from the extreme "Religious Right" that are propagating anti-Muslim hatred in the United States.
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Post by fred on Oct 18, 2013 23:15:34 GMT
Zionists Jews ...responsable for deaths of thousands....this is news to me... did Bush actually rally christians to kill muslims...was his army devoid of muslim soldiers.. How many Catholic Iraqis died? this sort of wag the dog stuff doesn't sit with me Shiva. The Zionist Nazis have killed two thousand Palestinian children in ten years, for instance. Don't you know Bush ranted on about a 'crusade'? What are crusades about? If Zionists were colonising your country - or even Christians trying to bring you back to the Faith - you would certainly organise Mammonist groups to terrorise them, wouldn't you? There goes the Israel problem in a nutshell. When you see your kids murdered by cowards in American gifted fighter bombers, you tend to get a bit miffed at the people who murdered your baby and the people who gave them the bomber. There is no Palestinian terrorist problem; only people who are really angry at an especially nasty invader.
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