|
|
Post by JP5 on Oct 3, 2013 13:34:31 GMT
Why doesn't Rep. John Boehner simply call for a House vote to end it?
Just two votes shy of what would end the shutdown if Boehner calls the House to vote on a continuing resolution to fund the federal government that is devoid of any "Obamacare" provisions. With at least 13 Republicans already willing to vote for such a resolution its very likely that two more would also support it and the impasse is over.
Shameful. |
|
|
|
Post by ShivaTD on Oct 3, 2013 14:00:30 GMT
The Democrats have already compromised on the House continuous resolution to temporarily fund the federal government by agreeing to $70 billion in Republican proposed spending cuts.
|
|
|
|
Post by smartmouthwoman on Oct 3, 2013 14:11:35 GMT
Some Dem called Reps JIHAD this morning. Hilarious considering they won't even call jihads jihad .
We need a compromise on Obamacare. Obama has made lots of changes to his own bill. Now its our turn. Pony up Dims.
|
|
|
|
Post by ShivaTD on Oct 3, 2013 14:37:55 GMT
Some Dem called Reps JIHAD this morning. Hilarious considering they won't even call jihads jihad . We need a compromise on Obamacare. Obama has made lots of changes to his own bill. Now its our turn. Pony up Dims.
worldpf.com/thread/582/gop-house-member-replace-obamacare
Of course with a proposal to replace "Obamacare" with "Obamacare" the details need to be worked out so how about Speaker Boehner calling for a vote on the continuous resolution to fund government now without linkage to Obamacare that most House members agree on? That will allow time for the discussion on Issa's proposal to take place where details on funding and subsidies can be worked out in the upcoming months. There's still a couple of months left this year to work out a deal to replace Obamacare with Obamacare.
|
|
|
|
Post by smartmouthwoman on Oct 3, 2013 14:50:10 GMT
Yes, esp the debt ceiling vote coming up in a couple of weeks. Sure hope the shutdown doesn't last that long.
This is what happens when either party pushes thru a major bill with NO support from the other side. Comes back to bite 'em in the butt.
|
|
|
|
Post by maniacalhamster on Oct 3, 2013 16:57:40 GMT
Some Dem called Reps JIHAD this morning. Hilarious considering they won't even call jihads jihad . We need a compromise on Obamacare. Obama has made lots of changes to his own bill. Now its our turn. Pony up Dims. how much do you want to water it down anyway. it was argued to almost death and compromise was done and redone to get something resembling what was asked for in the beginning. so basically it's hang out to dry anyone who is poor... |
|
|
|
Post by maniacalhamster on Oct 3, 2013 17:00:35 GMT
Yes, esp the debt ceiling vote coming up in a couple of weeks. Sure hope the shutdown doesn't last that long. This is what happens when either party pushes thru a major bill with NO support from the other side. Comes back to bite 'em in the butt. the debt ceiling is just another word for paying your bills, in this case money already spent... holding america hostage with that as has been threatened by republicans , is really insane... if you think the republicans shutting down the country is nutso mean spirited and biting your nose of to spite your face as me mum would say...wait and see what happens when they go for it... and they will go for it...it's the showdown at the OK Corral |
|
|
|
Post by smartmouthwoman on Oct 3, 2013 17:46:37 GMT
Some Dem called Reps JIHAD this morning. Hilarious considering they won't even call jihads jihad . We need a compromise on Obamacare. Obama has made lots of changes to his own bill. Now its our turn. Pony up Dims. how much do you want to water it down anyway. it was argued to almost death and compromise was done and redone to get something resembling what was asked for in the beginning. so basically it's hang out to dry anyone who is poor...[/quote No idea what that means... Obamacare was passed without a single Rep vote. The poor have always had access to free medical care in this country. Now the poor with a lil money will be forced to buy insurance. Some progress. They're worse off than before. |
|
|
|
Post by maniacalhamster on Oct 3, 2013 18:13:50 GMT
your post is a lil screwed up Smartie..and i cannot seem to fix it...
it looks like you are putting asinine statements in my mouth instead of yours....is this a tactic? or boo boo?
you wrote:
1)how is that possible..
2)if that was true then reform would not be necessary.
HMO's are a nightmare and not the same thing as equal care, if thats what you are talking about. so much is simply not covered and you know it.
|
|
|
|
Post by smartmouthwoman on Oct 3, 2013 18:26:30 GMT
your post is a lil screwed up Smartie..and i cannot seem to fix it... it looks like you are putting asinine statements in my mouth instead of yours....is this a tactic? or boo boo? you wrote: 1)how is that possible.. 2)if that was true then reform would not be necessary. HMO's are a nightmare and not the same thing as equal care, if thats what you are talking about. so much is simply not covered and you know it. Here's what you seem to have trouble grasping. Obamacare does nothing to lower the cost of health care. .. in fact, for many families, their cost have doubled or tripled because their premiums went up. You're rooting for the wrong team, cupcake. |
|
|
|
Post by maniacalhamster on Oct 3, 2013 18:43:48 GMT
your post is a lil screwed up Smartie..and i cannot seem to fix it... it looks like you are putting asinine statements in my mouth instead of yours....is this a tactic? or boo boo? you wrote: 1)how is that possible.. 2)if that was true then reform would not be necessary. HMO's are a nightmare and not the same thing as equal care, if thats what you are talking about. so much is simply not covered and you know it. Here's what you seem to have trouble grasping. Obamacare does nothing to lower the cost of health care. .. in fact, for many families, their cost have doubled or tripled because their premiums went up. You're rooting for the wrong team, cupcake. is this actually true or just republican spin. now i would do away with insurance companies liken Canada did... if your saying that people who pay insurance premiums with a certain amount of money are going to pay more and those with less are going to pay less... if the people who are going to pay more really find it makes a difference in their wealth...well then there is a problem. now since Katrina and the fact insurance companies are a global thing now....since Katrina insurance premiums for house protection has risen in Canada..no matter what your income. is that fair. seeing that Canada would never have handled Katrina in the fascist, racist , inept fashion it was .. so we suffer due to your inane republican system decisions..hopefully this won;t effect other aspects of our insurance....and yes there are studies that auto insurance went up do to Katrina as well.. all to do with derivatives and how insurance trade with one another... buttcake |
|
|
|
Post by ShivaTD on Oct 3, 2013 20:45:40 GMT
Yes, esp the debt ceiling vote coming up in a couple of weeks. Sure hope the shutdown doesn't last that long. This is what happens when either party pushes thru a major bill with NO support from the other side. Comes back to bite 'em in the butt.
As the Speaker of the House Boehner has this authority and it is a bi-partisan solution to the shutdown of the government that the vast majority of Americans want ended. |
|
|
|
Post by JP5 on Oct 3, 2013 22:02:59 GMT
I agree. Pres. Obama can stop it tomorrow.....if he would just be a statesman for a chance and compromise on something......and drop the "my way or the highway; I want it ALL," mantra.
|
|
|
|
Post by smartmouthwoman on Oct 3, 2013 22:25:56 GMT
Some Dem called Reps JIHAD this morning. Hilarious considering they won't even call jihads jihad . We need a compromise on Obamacare. Obama has made lots of changes to his own bill. Now its our turn. Pony up Dims. how much do you want to water it down anyway. it was argued to almost death and compromise was done and redone to get something resembling what was asked for in the beginning. so basically it's hang out to dry anyone who is poor... Nobody's looking to 'water it down' -- we just want the people who passed Obamacare to have to use Obamacare like the rest of us. LOTS of people have gotten exemptions from Obama, including CONGRESS, his union buddies, and politically favored businesses. Fair is fair. Either we all have to participate or nobody does. |
|
|
|
Post by JP5 on Oct 3, 2013 22:29:01 GMT
The Democrats have already compromised on the House continuous resolution to temporarily fund the federal government by agreeing to $70 billion in Republican proposed spending cuts.
Yes.....it was a temporary compromise. Republicans wanted more....and Democrats didn't want anything. But it was temporary. There's more to do. |
|
