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Fodder
Oct 11, 2013 12:58:21 GMT
Post by iolo on Oct 11, 2013 12:58:21 GMT
I have just come back from France, and I want to say here - as I would have done two years ago also - that the food over there was DREADFUL! Time to get shot of this outdated myth about French versus British food. Even 'Welsh' food has begun to be a real pleasure, as has Irish, whereas, over there, I just got the squits for no joy whatever.
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Fodder
Oct 12, 2013 23:35:22 GMT
Post by beevee on Oct 12, 2013 23:35:22 GMT
What has the George V done to you?
Do the waiters now tip the tourists to dine there?
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Fodder
Oct 14, 2013 12:54:00 GMT
Post by iolo on Oct 14, 2013 12:54:00 GMT
What has the George V done to you? Do the waiters now tip the tourists to dine there? I don't think George V was there. The waitresses were exploited, hanging about while we were forced to wait for foul food and make conversation for two house to build up our drinks bill. A tiny glass of wine cost 7 Euros, a bottle (from which you'd have got about 20 glasses) 15. You could buy the same bottle across the road for 5. It was a learning experience, I can tell you!
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Fodder
Oct 15, 2013 17:59:20 GMT
Post by beevee on Oct 15, 2013 17:59:20 GMT
What has the George V done to you? Do the waiters now tip the tourists to dine there? I don't think George V was there. The waitresses were exploited, hanging about while we were forced to wait for foul food and make conversation for two house to build up our drinks bill. A tiny glass of wine cost 7 Euros, a bottle (from which you'd have got about 20 glasses) 15. You could buy the same bottle across the road for 5. It was a learning experience, I can tell you! Where did you go? Paris? (Why can't a post be less than 10 words)
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Fodder
Oct 16, 2013 12:27:05 GMT
Post by iolo on Oct 16, 2013 12:27:05 GMT
No - down in the South West. The country was pretty. For a real eating experience, by the way, try minced raw beef mixed with raw egg. It has very little taste but can make you quite remarkably sick!
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Fodder
Oct 17, 2013 20:18:55 GMT
Post by beevee on Oct 17, 2013 20:18:55 GMT
No - down in the South West. The country was pretty. For a real eating experience, by the way, try minced raw beef mixed with raw egg. It has very little taste but can make you quite remarkably sick! This is the dreadful food to which you refer? I thought you might be complaining about the French version of roast beef and yorkshire pudding or battered fish and chips. You should have been more adventurous and tried frogs legs, squid and octopus as an appetizer.
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Fodder
Oct 18, 2013 10:59:35 GMT
Post by ShivaTD on Oct 18, 2013 10:59:35 GMT
This is why I love American food. We can take a foreign food that might range from so-so to the unpalatable and modify it until it tastes good. If we can't do that then we simply don't eat it. We go so far as to invent our own "foreign" dishes and claim they come from somewhere else.
For example we have "chimichangas" that are a deep fried burrito. The burrito is from Mexico but the chimichanga comes from Arizona. We made the burrito even better because it tastes so good deep fried.
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Fodder
Oct 18, 2013 11:59:35 GMT
Post by iolo on Oct 18, 2013 11:59:35 GMT
No - down in the South West. The country was pretty. For a real eating experience, by the way, try minced raw beef mixed with raw egg. It has very little taste but can make you quite remarkably sick! This is the dreadful food to which you refer? I thought you might be complaining about the French version of roast beef and yorkshire pudding or battered fish and chips. You should have been more adventurous and tried frogs legs, squid and octopus as an appetizer. I'd have welcomed frogs legs. What we had was fish, which I can't eat, very badly cooked, with no vegetables, ever. To start we always had some form of crème brulée, which tasted nasty, and always finished with some sort of very nasty chocolate with very nasty cream, because they were cheap there.
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Fodder
Oct 19, 2013 13:00:17 GMT
Post by ShivaTD on Oct 19, 2013 13:00:17 GMT
It is interesting because we often hear complaints about the food when people travel to foreign countries especially as it relates to the common foods of those nations. There are exceptions of course but sometimes it just the fact that our tastes are different.
I have a limited experience in foreign countries but I know that I liked some of the domestic fair while not liking other parts of their diets. I was in Taiwan for example and some of the food was excellent (i.e. real Chinese food and not American Chinese food) but I didn't like some of it as well. I've traveled often to Mexico and the same rule applies. Much of it is excellent better than any Mexican food I could get in the US but some wasn't something I'd enjoy.
Ultimately I think it's more about individual selectivity in what they choose to eat more than anything else. I currently live in the Seattle area and I know there are foods from SoCal that I love but the people up here couldn't eat or wouldn't enjoy because it's regional food that they're unaccustomed to.
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Fodder
Nov 2, 2013 11:34:37 GMT
Post by cenydd on Nov 2, 2013 11:34:37 GMT
This is why I love American food. We can take a foreign food that might range from so-so to the unpalatable and modify it until it tastes good. If we can't do that then we simply don't eat it. We go so far as to invent our own "foreign" dishes and claim they come from somewhere else.
This is a habit picked up from the USA's UK origins. We have a very long history of being a trading island, and adopting tastes and ingredients from all over the world, either picked up through trading or brought here by immigrants (and we have a long and proud history of immigration, too). That is what many seem to fail to understand about 'the British' (including some of the 'British', of course!) - the various peoples here (those that could afford it) have always been outward-looking in their eating habits. Nowadays almost every village has at least a Chinese and an Indian food outlet in addition to the 'chippy' (and many large villages, and every town, has much more, including Italian, some form of 'Kebab' place, Sushi, etc.). I have to say that French food on the other hand is, in my experience, almost universally poor. Their cuisine seems to have a limited understanding of how to use ingredients in order to get the best out of the ingredients themselves, and fairly a limited palette of flavours (not to mention a regular habit of not putting enough on the plate, and prioritising style and look over flavour and satisfaction!). It generally doesn't compare favourably at all with Indian sub-Continental cuisine, for example, or Italian, or South East Asian food, in my opinion. I have no idea why it seems so highly regarded - there are so many other cuisines that are so much better. People from outside the UK often seem to misunderstand what 'traditional British' food is all about, too - using the flavours of the ingredients themselves to good effect, rather than covering them with lots of additional herbs and spices. If you are used to highly-spiced food, obviously things that aren't highly spiced will taste 'bland' at first, until you gain an appreciated for the more subtle flavours. Of course, there have been historic misunderstandings of British food - much of the US impression of it, for example, comes from the WWII period when US citizens were over here in large numbers. Yes, UK food then was pretty bad - we'd been suffering from years of shortages and rationing as a result of the war, and were particularly short of things like fat and sugar - major players in the flavour stakes. It seems to have been assumed by many that that was 'normal' British food, and the misunderstanding still persists all too widely. Of course, many foods considered by Americans to be 'American' are actually entirely British and entirely traditional to the UK - the standard roast dinner, for example. And what could be more 'American' than apple pie? That's traditional British food, too, and not American at all. It can be a little irritating to hear Americans dismiss UK food as being 'bad' when what they are saying is 'good' and 'traditional American' is often exactly the same as that UK food. One of the most popular dishes in the UK is Chicken Tikka Masala - a dish using traditional Indian elements, but probably actually invented in the UK (probably in Glasgow, specifically, although the origins are disputed). British food is among the most varied in the world because of so many influences over so long a period (and so many flavours and spices from all over the world), and that is a tradition that is many centuries old, which is why the original 'traditional British cuisine' is something so hard to define. Definitions often seem to fall back essentially on 'peasant food', which can be good and hearty and tasty enough, of course, but was ultimately eaten by poor people because they couldn't afford better (and is pretty similar to peasant food across Europe and elsewhere - lots of stews and things). There's nothing wrong at all with food in the UK. There only ever has been at times of shortage, and that is going to be the same the world over. There's plenty of bad food in the UK, of course, and bad restaurants, and bad takeaways, and bad processed foods in supermarkets - that is also the same the world over, and not a yardstick for judging how good food is generally.
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Fodder
Nov 2, 2013 13:38:45 GMT
Post by ShivaTD on Nov 2, 2013 13:38:45 GMT
British food? Try explaining spotted dick. Nothing wrong with the recipe but to name a food where it brings to mind thoughts of a gross venereal disease has something inherently wrong with it. ROFLMAO
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Fodder
Nov 2, 2013 16:20:48 GMT
Post by cenydd on Nov 2, 2013 16:20:48 GMT
The UK has never been averse to a nice juicy bit of innuendo!
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