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Post by JP5 on Oct 20, 2013 16:06:41 GMT
For the Dems who think he's going away; think again. Democrats on all over tv this morning trying to convince the people...and themselves.....that it's over for Ted Cruz and that everyone is angry at him. Nothing could be farther from the truth. A crowd of 750 people packed in downtown San Antonio hotel ballroom! "After two months in Washington, it's great to be back in America," Cruz joked in speaking to a crowd of about 750 people in a packed downtown San Antonio hotel ballroom. Cruz was greeted with an eight-minute standing ovation in an appearance organized by the Texas Federation of Republican Women. People in attendance, many of them wearing red to show their support for keeping Texas a conservative-leaning state, lined up to greet him." ca.news.yahoo.com/senator-cruz-returns-texas-welcome-shutdown-battle-043355751.html |
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Post by snarky on Oct 20, 2013 16:59:14 GMT
of course he's not going away... he's got years in the senate yet to devolve even more. well gee.... a standing ovation from san antonio.............texas??? who woulda thunk? cruz is just the flavor of the day is all. rubio was once as well... so was ryan...lol...so was palin... ya.............. she didn't get much of an ovation last time she was media whoring... 'using vets'  ? LOL...oh the irony! |
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Post by snarky on Oct 20, 2013 17:27:51 GMT
oh, & not to squash any teabagger's wetdream about nominating him for prez.... he cannot be sworn in because there is no question whatsoever that he's not a natural born citizen.  |
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Post by ShivaTD on Oct 20, 2013 19:04:28 GMT
oh, & not to squash any teabagger's wetdream about nominating him for prez.... he cannot be sworn in because there is no question whatsoever that he's not a natural born citizen.  DOH! I knew that. He was born in Canada and that makes him a natural born Canadian. |
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Post by JP5 on Oct 20, 2013 19:10:23 GMT
Keep dreaming! I realize you're scared he'll run....but oh well, that's not my problem.
From the very liberal Professor Alan Dersowitz. He told the Washington Post that Cruz was "off-the-charts brilliant."
Cruz has been named by American Lawyer magazine as one of the 50 Best Litigators under 45 in America in the country. In his 30s, he argued nine cases before the Supreme Court and won several of them. Whenever he is challenged, his energy level goes up, his backbone stiffens, and his wits sharpen. From that point, it's game on."
Most of us find it refreshing to discover someone who actually does what they ran on in order to get elected and who doesn't "sell out" once they get to D.C.
"Cruz doesn't care about being popular or part of the in-crowd. He's comfortable with conflict, and sometimes he even seems like a glutton for punishment. He can't be intimidated or scared off. He doesn't care if other senators isolate him, ignore him or attack him. He doesn't care if they let him into their club. So they have no power over him.
Not that his fellow senators haven't tried, unsuccessfully, to beat him into submission. They gave it a go last week at a closed-door lunch meeting in the Senate's Mansfield Room. According to senators who attended the meeting, and who spoke anonymously to Politico and The New York Times, one Republican senator after another berated Cruz for -- as they saw it -- causing the government shutdown without a plan to end it.
Opinion: Goodbye to the strategy Republicans knew was a fantasy
At one point, Sen. Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire -- who is one of the GOP senators targeted for defeat by the Senate Conservatives Fund, an outside group that aims to punish those who did not fight the good fight against Obamacare -- asked the Texas senator whether he would publicly renounce the attacks.
Cruz's response, according to someone who was in the room, was short and sweet. "I will not," he said.
That's typical Ted. As he sees it, this is his colleagues' problem, which they brought upon themselves by breaking promises and straying from principles. It's not his job to save them.
As one senator told the Times, Cruz's refusal to renounce the attacks on his colleagues "just started a lynch mob." Who knew the GOP senators still had some passion left in them, at least when re-election is at stake?
One senator who attended the meeting told Politico, "I just wish the 35 House members that have bought the snake oil that was sold could witness what was witnessed today at lunch."
www.cnn.com/2013/10/09/opinion/navarrette-cruz-obamacare/
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Post by snarky on Oct 20, 2013 19:52:26 GMT
ted cruz... bought & pd for whore. when you CONfuse mockery & ridicule for being fearful, then something is wrong in ewingville.
i do thank you for the giggles...
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Post by JP5 on Oct 20, 2013 20:24:55 GMT
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Post by snarky on Oct 20, 2013 23:13:03 GMT
the atmosphere is pretty toxic in the filthy world of politics...reminds me of the time a few pols used terms like 'have them in your sites' or 'lock ' load'.... indeed.. whackos everywhere. |
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Post by ShivaTD on Oct 21, 2013 10:30:57 GMT
Excluding the fact that Ted Cruz is a natural born citizen of Canada because he's a natural born citizen of Canada based upon birth and doesn't meet the Constitutional criteria to be president there is one fundamental problem I have with Ted Cruz.
Ted Cruz as never, to my knowledge, made a single proposal to fix any problems in America. He addresses the symptoms of problems but never addresses the actual problems. "Obamacare" is the perfect example because "Obamacare" isn't the actual problem. The tens of millions of Americans that need health care services but can't afford them are the problem.
How do we, as a nation, ensure that we don't leave sick and dying people standing on the corner because they can't afford to walk in the door of a hospital and receive all of the medical services they need?
Ted Cruz, to my knowledge, has never made any proposal to fix this problem.
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Post by JP5 on Oct 22, 2013 0:21:19 GMT
Excluding the fact that Ted Cruz is a natural born citizen of Canada because he's a natural born citizen of Canada based upon birth and doesn't meet the Constitutional criteria to be president there is one fundamental problem I have with Ted Cruz.
Ted Cruz as never, to my knowledge, made a single proposal to fix any problems in America. He addresses the symptoms of problems but never addresses the actual problems. "Obamacare" is the perfect example because "Obamacare" isn't the actual problem. The tens of millions of Americans that need health care services but can't afford them are the problem.
How do we, as a nation, ensure that we don't leave sick and dying people standing on the corner because they can't afford to walk in the door of a hospital and receive all of the medical services they need?
Ted Cruz, to my knowledge, has never made any proposal to fix this problem.  Sorry, I couldn't resist that one.
First, we have to repeal Obamacare.....before we can get on to anything else. THIS time, try actually including the other 1/2 of the nation.....who last time were demonized, called names, and/or totally ignored for daring to even say out loud that they did NOT want the federal gov't running their healthcare! Try listening to the American people and not shoving a purely 100% partisan massive piece of legislation down the throat of Americans......
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Post by ShivaTD on Oct 22, 2013 15:16:34 GMT
Excluding the fact that Ted Cruz is a natural born citizen of Canada because he's a natural born citizen of Canada based upon birth and doesn't meet the Constitutional criteria to be president there is one fundamental problem I have with Ted Cruz.
Ted Cruz as never, to my knowledge, made a single proposal to fix any problems in America. He addresses the symptoms of problems but never addresses the actual problems. "Obamacare" is the perfect example because "Obamacare" isn't the actual problem. The tens of millions of Americans that need health care services but can't afford them are the problem.
How do we, as a nation, ensure that we don't leave sick and dying people standing on the corner because they can't afford to walk in the door of a hospital and receive all of the medical services they need?
Ted Cruz, to my knowledge, has never made any proposal to fix this problem.
First, we have to repeal Obamacare.....before we can get on to anything else. THIS time, try actually including the other 1/2 of the nation.....who last time were demonized, called names, and/or totally ignored for daring to even say out loud that they did NOT want the federal gov't running their healthcare! Try listening to the American people and not shoving a purely 100% partisan massive piece of legislation down the throat of Americans......
No, "Obamacare" cannot be repealed without a better plan to replace it. Tens of thousands of people will die and millions will go untreated for illnesses they have if "Obamacare" is repealed without a replacement plan to treat these people that can't afford the health services they require but can't afford.
By analogy we can address it this way.
A person is drowning and some idiots produce a hollow life preserver made out of gold that is very expensive but it floats, they throw it to the person to keep them from drowning. Obviously much less expensive plain foam life preserver would work just as well but we don't pull away the expensive gold life preserver and let the person drown while were discussing how to make the less expensive foam life preserver.
The Democrats created a hollow gold life preserver and starting in 2014 it will save peoples lives. We can't just stop saving peoples lives while discussing how to produce a far less expensive life preserver that the Republicans haven't even taken the time to describe in principle much less providing the designs to build it.
I've been involved in building aircraft for most of my working career and we're always addressing cost savings to production and have implemented many of them over time. We didn't stop producing airplanes while we discussed how to reduce the costs. We created the cost savings processes and then implemented them to reduce the costs of production. Republicans want to stop the production line while they sit around and discuss cost savings.
That is a non-starter for Republicans.
Republicans need to define the plan that will result in cost savings, less intrusive government, that will potentially reduce the size of government, while still saving people's lives and providing necessary medical services that "Obamacare" will start doing in just over two months and then that plan needs to be implemented it in a phased manner to replace "Obamacare" in the future.
Seriously, this is no different than my proposal to privatize Social Security. I provide a superior plan, I use a realistic transitional phase-in, and I provide a well thought out funding mechanism that doesn't reduce the standard of living for any American to accomplish it because sometimes we actually have to spend money up front to save money over the long term (e.g. we have an upfront expenditure to add insulation to our homes but long term the cost savings for heating/cooling pay for the investment and create huge future savings). In the end the social welfare programs of Social Security and Medicare are fundamentally eliminated, American people are all better off, government taxation and spending is dramatically reduced, and the size of government is reduced proportionately.
If I can solve the problems with Social Security and Medicare that are a much larger problem for America with a proposal then why can't Republicans come up with a proposal to replace "Obamacare" with something better?
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Post by JP5 on Oct 22, 2013 16:48:50 GMT
Shiva: "If I can solve the problems with Social Security and Medicare that are a much larger problem for America with a proposal then why can't Republicans come up with a proposal to replace "Obamacare" with something better? "
Really??? You solved all the problems??? Have you called Obama yet?
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Post by ShivaTD on Oct 22, 2013 18:58:36 GMT
Shiva: "If I can solve the problems with Social Security and Medicare that are a much larger problem for America with a proposal then why can't Republicans come up with a proposal to replace "Obamacare" with something better? "
Really??? You solved all the problems??? Have you called Obama yet?
No, I haven't contacted President Obama but I have contacted both of my Senators and my House Representative about it because this relates to changing the tax laws and only Congress can do that. Even a Republican should know that. In fact, Senator Murray's office (she's one of my two senators) expressed interest in it when I submitted my proposal and I might be discussing it in person with her in the not to distant future.
I haven't solved the problems of "Obamacare" but according to you there are SMART people that can and so I'm waiting to hear what their proposals are for replacing "Obamacare" with something better. I sure as hell haven't heard anything from Ted Cruz that would replace "Obamacare" so far. Cruz just wants to end "Obamacare" leaving the United States with the default plan of "Don't get sick" or "If you get sick die quickly" option. That doesn't reflect a "SMART PEOPLE" plan.
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Post by JP5 on Oct 22, 2013 20:20:22 GMT
You cannot provide even ONE example of someone in our country who died because they did not have health insurance. However, I HAVE given you my personal examples of two people who DID die.....even with very good health insurance.
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Post by ShivaTD on Oct 23, 2013 18:02:42 GMT
You cannot provide even ONE example of someone in our country who died because they did not have health insurance. However, I HAVE given you my personal examples of two people who DID die.....even with very good health insurance.
I'm sorry that I don't have the names of the dead at my finger-tips to provide anecdotal stories that have no statistical meaning but we do have the estimated number of those that die annually because of a lack of insurance based upon a relatively recent scientific study.... Oops sorry, I forgot, while members of the "Tea Party" apparently do know what science is based upon a scientific study they don't typically believe in scientific studies that contradict their uninformed opinions......... my bad for introducing scientific facts established by empirical data into the discussion.
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? LOL...oh the irony!
Sorry, I couldn't resist that one.