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Post by pjohns1873 on Nov 27, 2013 18:51:23 GMT
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Post by ShivaTD on Nov 28, 2013 14:16:31 GMT
Heavy water reactors do produce plutonium as a waste by-product but do not provide the means for refining it into weapon's grade nuclear material. The IAEA has reported that Iran does not have the equipment necessary to refine nuclear materials into weapon's grade nuclear fuel at this time.
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Post by niff on Nov 29, 2013 13:57:04 GMT
"At this time". YOU want Iran to have a nuclear bomb it can wave at Israel and attempt to black mail it's neighbors. Your antipathy towards the 'Jews' is well established here.
The KSA and Israel will never allow Iran to have a nuclear bomb.
Obama and his 'Pickle Lady's Lap Dog Kerry' are not even mentioned as being in the slightest way 'players' in determining when, not if, Israel destroys Iran's nuclear bomb making sites.
The so-called' deal with Iran has collapsed just as the Mullahs planned it would. Now they can pretend to be 'in talks' over the wording of the 'agreement' on into the future.
"We've come to the 'peace table' with the 'West' and as long as we are simply attempting to get the wording right no one can say we aren't trying for an agreement and so it would be unthinkable that we should be attacked".
If anyone is dumb enough to buy what the Mullahs are selling more fool them.
Meanwhile of course Iran is frantically trying to build the bomb before the 'Affirmative Action President' shuffles back to his Chicaloand sewer.
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Post by ShivaTD on Nov 29, 2013 15:26:15 GMT
1) I oppose the rogue nuclear weapon nations and they must be induced into dismantling those nuclear weapons with economic sanctions if they won't do it otherwise.
2) I oppose any nation producing new nuclear weapons.
3) While there is a pragmatic necessity for a few nations to have nuclear weapons as a deterrent against the use of nuclear weapons by any nation the number of weapons that are allowed and which nations should be strictly controlled.
Ideally a nation entrusted with the responsibility of being one of the delegated nuclear weapon nations should be a nation that never resorts to threats of the use of force or of military force in their international relations because if they do they are really using a "nuclear weapon threat" as the foundation for their actions. Personally I'd pick a country like Switzerland to be an authorized nuclear weapon nation because I can't recall any historical cases of Switzerland being militarily aggressive in it's international affairs. I sure as hell wouldn't pick the US, China, France, UK, or Russia!!!
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Post by iolo on Nov 29, 2013 15:56:31 GMT
"At this time". YOU want Iran to have a nuclear bomb it can wave at Israel and attempt to black mail it's neighbors. Your antipathy towards the 'Jews' is well established here. The KSA and Israel will never allow Iran to have a nuclear bomb. Obama and his 'Pickle Lady's Lap Dog Kerry' are not even mentioned as being in the slightest way 'players' in determining when, not if, Israel destroys Iran's nuclear bomb making sites. The so-called' deal with Iran has collapsed just as the Mullahs planned it would. Now they can pretend to be 'in talks' over the wording of the 'agreement' on into the future. "We've come to the 'peace table' with the 'West' and as long as we are simply attempting to get the wording right no one can say we aren't trying for an agreement and so it would be unthinkable that we should be attacked". If anyone is dumb enough to buy what the Mullahs are selling more fool them. Meanwhile of course Iran is frantically trying to build the bomb before the 'Affirmative Action President' shuffles back to his Chicaloand sewer. Anyone in Iran who opposes mutually assured Destruction to stop the murderous Zionist nazis is a traitor to the human race, as very well you know. Stop paying the racist to murder children and get some self-respect! |
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Post by niff on Nov 29, 2013 18:48:10 GMT
Those "Nazi-Jews" have had the Bomb for decades and never even admitted they had it let alone threaten anyone with it.
Anyway you and yours will always end up eating sand for a living while the rest of the world laughs at you as it has done for thousands of years.
You need to figure out why the rest of the world has zero respect for Arabs.
Are you being paid by AQ by the letter or the word?
Isn't that internet cafe you are posting from in N. Pakistan getting worried about a US drone strike? Just saying.
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Post by niff on Nov 29, 2013 18:55:22 GMT
1) I oppose the rogue nuclear weapon nations and they must be induced into dismantling those nuclear weapons with economic sanctions if they won't do it otherwise.
2) I oppose any nation producing new nuclear weapons.
3) While there is a pragmatic necessity for a few nations to have nuclear weapons as a deterrent against the use of nuclear weapons by any nation the number of weapons that are allowed and which nations should be strictly controlled.
Ideally a nation entrusted with the responsibility of being one of the delegated nuclear weapon nations should be a nation that never resorts to threats of the use of force or of military force in their international relations because if they do they are really using a "nuclear weapon threat" as the foundation for their actions. Personally I'd pick a country like Switzerland to be an authorized nuclear weapon nation because I can't recall any historical cases of Switzerland being militarily aggressive in it's international affairs. I sure as hell wouldn't pick the US, China, France, UK, or Russia!!!
1 No nation with a nuclear arsenal will ever give them up. Explain which nations are IYO "rogue". BTW Israel has had nuclear weapons for decades and NEVER ONCE threatened any other country. In your right mind do you really believe Iran would not be Black mailing and threatening Israel the minute they finished building them? I did say in your right mind. Yeah Switzerland. LOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!! What are you? Like ten years old? |
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Post by ShivaTD on Nov 30, 2013 12:22:30 GMT
No nation will give up nuclear weapons once they have them? Try explaining S Africa then.
There are only five authorized nuclear weapon nations in the world (US, UK, France, Russia, China). All others are rogue nuclear weapon nations (N Korea, India, Pakistan, Israel).
No, Iran would not "blackmail" Israel if it had nuclear weapons. Iran has never threatened to attack Israel and would not threatened Israel if it had nuclear weapons knowing it could never use them nor would Iran give nuclear weapons to anyone else if it had them (unlike Israel that was behind the S African nuclear weapons). It is Israel that is the nation of aggression in the Middle East today and not Iran.
Israel has repeatedly attacked and invaded it's neighbors and has also used chemical weapons against civilian population centers. In fact Israel is still occupying territories from it's 1967 War of Aggression against Egypt, Jordan, and Syria. Where people get off this this delusional belief that Israel isn't a warmongering nation is beyond me, The very political ideology of Zionism was based upon aggression and Israel has always been aggressive in it's actions. Israel is the only nation in the Middle East blocking a Middle East WMD Free Zone treaty that would eliminate all chemical, biological, and nuclear weapons in the Middle East.
Why do people think that Iran provides military assistance to Hezbollah and Hamas? It's because Israel repeatedly invades Lebanon and Gaza with it's military. Hell, Israel invaded Gaza just a week or so ago with it's military in another of it's countless military incursions it's made over the years.
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Post by iolo on Nov 30, 2013 13:24:01 GMT
Those "Nazi-Jews" have had the Bomb for decades and never even admitted they had it let alone threaten anyone with it. Anyway you and yours will always end up eating sand for a living while the rest of the world laughs at you as it has done for thousands of years. You need to figure out why the rest of the world has zero respect for Arabs. Are you being paid by AQ by the letter or the word? Isn't that internet cafe you are posting from in N. Pakistan getting worried about a US drone strike? Just saying. Everyone knew - and knows - that these Nazis had the bomb. It is just as with everything else they have to do with they lie about it: they lie about everything. Who on earth are you to speak for the 'rest of the world' when you live (I suppose) in the most racist and ugly right-wing country left? |
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Post by niff on Nov 30, 2013 14:02:12 GMT
And you live in a stinking sand pit. Happy to mutilate little girls and live in the fifteen century. Enjoy your self pal.
Iran has ben threatening to "drive the Jews into the sea" or decades.
It's moot now anyway.
The SKA and Israel are about to destroy Iran's nuclear bomb making centers. But not until after the 'holidays season'.
The war between the Arabs and the Jews is centuries old. Funny, the Jews always win in the end.
Let us know when any Arab country on the planet gets a 'production line' going making anything. OK?
I will however concede Arabs are number one world wide in the number of taxis drivers. It's a start right?
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Post by niff on Nov 30, 2013 14:44:04 GMT
The 1967 "War of Aggression"? That's priceless! "The Six-Day War (Hebrew: מלחמת ששת הימים, Milhemet Sheshet Ha Yamim; Arabic: النكسة, an-Naksah, "The Setback," or حرب ۱۹٦۷, Ḥarb 1967, "War of 1967"), also known as the June War, 1967 Arab-Israeli War, or Third Arab-Israeli War, was fought between June 5 and 10, 1967, by Israel and the neighboring states of Egypt (known at the time as the United Arab Republic), Jordan, and Syria. The war began on June 5 with Israel launching surprise bombing raids against Egyptian air-fields.
A period of high tension had preceded the war. In response to sabotage acts aimed at Israeli targets,[13][14][15] Israel raided into the Jordanian-controlled West Bank[16][qt 1] and initiated flights over Syria which ended with aerial clashes over Syrian territory,[17] Syrian artillery attacks against Israeli civilian settlements in the vicinity of the border followed by Israeli responses against Syrian positions in the Golan Heights and encroachments of increasing intensity and frequency into the demilitarized zones along the Syrian border,[18] and culminating in Egypt blocking the Straits of Tiran,[19] deploying its troops near Israel's border, and ordering the evacuation of the U.N. buffer force from the Sinai Peninsula.[20][21] Within six days, Israel had won a decisive land war. Israeli forces had taken control of the Gaza Strip and the Sinai Peninsula from Egypt, the West Bank and East Jerusalem from Jordan, and the Golan Heights from Syria."
You and your other 'Jew Hater' here need to understand what the phrase "historical facts" mean.
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Post by ShivaTD on Nov 30, 2013 15:05:38 GMT
..... The war between the Arabs and the Jews is centuries old. Funny, the Jews always win in the end. Let us know when any Arab country on the planet gets a 'production line' going making anything. OK? I will however concede Arabs are number one world wide in the number of taxis drivers. It's a start right?
The conflict between the Arabs and the Jews in Palestine really didn't begin until the end of the 19th Century and the conflict originated with the beginning of the European Zionist agenda to immigrate to Palestine, force the native Arabs out of their homeland for thousands of years, and form an government based upon the invidious criteria of "Jewish religious, racial, and ethnic" imperialism.
It is also ironic to note that the Jewish nation of Israel is going to disappear from the face of the map in the foreseeable future and not a shot will need to be fired for this to occur. Based upon current demographic projections the Arab Israeli citizens are going to become the majority in Israel not later than 2048. Soon after that occurs based upon a "majority vote" the Arabs are going to abolish the "Jewish" nature of Israel using the ballot box.
The only way the Zionist Jews in Israel can prevent this is by resorting to the tactics of the Nazis in Germany that resorted to forced expulsion, ethnic cleansing, and genocide. The Zionist Jews are already engaged in the attempted the ethnic cleansing and forced expulsion of Arabs living in the (illegally) occupied territories but have yet to turn on the Arab citizens of Israel. Will the world's nations allow a "mini-Nazi Germany" in Israel is a question that remains unanswered but I seriously doubt it.
In the end what I believe we will see is that an invidious political ideology of religious, racial, and ethnic criteria discrimination using acts of aggression that created the nation of Israel will fail after about 100 years.
The problem as I see it is that a nation founded upon the invidious criteria of "Jewish religious, racial, and ethnic heritage" is going to probably be replaced by a nation founded upon the invidious criteria of "Arab Muslim religious, racial and ethnic heritage" after that 100 year rule of the Jews.
We are more than likely to see the Tyranny of the Jews replaced by the Tyranny of the Muslim Arabs.
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Post by ShivaTD on Nov 30, 2013 15:29:46 GMT
The 1967 "War of Aggression"? That's priceless! "The Six-Day War (Hebrew: מלחמת ששת הימים, Milhemet Sheshet Ha Yamim; Arabic: النكسة, an-Naksah, "The Setback," or حرب ۱۹٦۷, Ḥarb 1967, "War of 1967"), also known as the June War, 1967 Arab-Israeli War, or Third Arab-Israeli War, was fought between June 5 and 10, 1967, by Israel and the neighboring states of Egypt (known at the time as the United Arab Republic), Jordan, and Syria. The war began on June 5 with Israel launching surprise bombing raids against Egyptian air-fields. A period of high tension had preceded the war. In response to sabotage acts aimed at Israeli targets,[13][14][15] Israel raided into the Jordanian-controlled West Bank[16][qt 1] and initiated flights over Syria which ended with aerial clashes over Syrian territory,[17] Syrian artillery attacks against Israeli civilian settlements in the vicinity of the border followed by Israeli responses against Syrian positions in the Golan Heights and encroachments of increasing intensity and frequency into the demilitarized zones along the Syrian border,[18] and culminating in Egypt blocking the Straits of Tiran,[19] deploying its troops near Israel's border, and ordering the evacuation of the U.N. buffer force from the Sinai Peninsula.[20][21] Within six days, Israel had won a decisive land war. Israeli forces had taken control of the Gaza Strip and the Sinai Peninsula from Egypt, the West Bank and East Jerusalem from Jordan, and the Golan Heights from Syria." You and your other 'Jew Hater' here need to understand what the phrase "historical facts" mean.
The fact that the purpose of Israel was to force the native population out of the Palestinian territories is also acknowledged by Mosha Dayan:
The 1967 War was based upon the provocation of the Zionist government of Israel that wanted to rationalize an invasion of Egypt, Jordan, and Syria for the sole purpose of expanding the territory of Israel and every knowledgeable person knows this. Even the United Nations Security Council in Resolution 242 cited the fact that the 1967 War related to an attempt by Israel to expand it's territorial borders and explicitly addressed the "inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war.."
Israel, not Egypt, Syria, and/or Jordan, was behind the 1967 War and we know exactly why.
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Post by iolo on Nov 30, 2013 16:19:43 GMT
And you live in a stinking sand pit. Happy to mutilate little girls and live in the fifteen century. Enjoy your self pal. Iran has ben threatening to "drive the Jews into the sea" or decades. It's moot now anyway. The SKA and Israel are about to destroy Iran's nuclear bomb making centers. But not until after the 'holidays season'. The war between the Arabs and the Jews is centuries old. Funny, the Jews always win in the end. Let us know when any Arab country on the planet gets a 'production line' going making anything. OK? I will however concede Arabs are number one world wide in the number of taxis drivers. It's a start right? Are you talking to me or just indulging in drunken ramblings? The Nazis attacked Palestine as a result of Balfour's letting some in to found a 'National Home' (whatever that might mean) when he needed loans to fight the First War. As you know, they are racist murderers who kill children as a matter of policy, 2,000 in ten years. Anyone who supports these evil scum should be deeply, deeply ashamed. |
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Post by ShivaTD on Nov 30, 2013 16:43:58 GMT
There is no fundamental difference between Nazi White Supremacy, Israeli Jewish Supremacy, and Palestinian Muslim Supremacy. All are based upon nefarious criteria and all result in tyranny.
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